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Old 09-07-2009, 11:54 AM
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Exclamation Please Help With Crime Victim Identification

As some of you may know, a video surfaced recently on YouTube that contained footage of the brutal beating of an African-American young man aged 22-29 in a karate dojo. A number of experts have declared online that they do not believe his injuries were survivable absent immediate medical care which he may not have received. Please follow this link and help us find this young man and discover whether or not he re-appeared after this December 13, 1984 video. If he did not, than it may be a homicide and conspiracy case for which no Statute of Limitation applies. Thanks.

WARNING! GRAPHIC VIOLENT CONTENT IN THIS LINK:

http://kmz.me/crimevictim/assault.php

http://kmz.me/crimevictim/index.php

This young man deserves justice. Please help.
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Old 09-07-2009, 11:55 AM
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Edited YouTube video (without the graphic parts) that describes the event (with pictures) and is a very good summation of the case:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgLibi7FIfY

Edited to add that Virginia apparently doesn't have a Statute of Limitations on serious felonies, so, while a longshot, assault charges are not out of the question even at this late date.
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Old 09-07-2009, 01:38 PM
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Amazing. With the amount of people that appeared to be present, I would think that someone would leak information. Next, what happened to the body? I know they drug it out the back, but I wonder what they could have done with it. How did this video get put on the net? I am sure that an upload record of an IP address would be on file with the server that hosted the video. With that the Police should be able to trace it to a provider and get a subscriber. JMHO
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Old 09-07-2009, 01:46 PM
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I am sure that an upload record of an IP address would be on file with the server that hosted the video. With that the Police should be able to trace it to a provider and get a subscriber. JMHO
The victim aside, this too concerns me. You simply can not upload things without leaving
a trail behind you. Well, it can be done, but certainly not by the average 'Net user.
If local authorities do not have the wherewithal to do the trace, certainly Federal authorities do.

And what about the dojo? And the other people involved? No one recognizes them?
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Old 09-07-2009, 08:14 PM
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tragic in ny case whether genuine or not ...

reminds me of 'snuff' films circulating some years ago ...

indeed - some routine police work should turn up something

missing persons report?
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Old 09-07-2009, 09:49 PM
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tragic in ny case whether genuine or not ...

reminds me of 'snuff' films circulating some years ago ...

indeed - some routine police work should turn up something

missing persons report?
The video is real and was posted by Blythe himself - and quickly taken down after a firestorm erupted - and attempts are being made both by the general public (me and others with fliers, etc.) as well as law enforcement to identify the victim. That is crucial in terms of finding out whether or not this was a murder.

BTW, I erred in my original post. I should have stated "not known whether the victim survived" rather than not survivable absent immediate medical treatment.

Unfortunately, I'm encountering a "so what" and "its not a big deal" attitude from some folks on a major martial arts board I used to be a Sr. Moderator on. Disappointed doesn't describe my feelings over this. As soon as I've done my duty there as I see it (spreading the online Crime Victim Identification flier) I will close my account there.

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Old 09-08-2009, 01:12 AM
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Hopefully, something will be done; however, after this many years, it is going to be very difficult.
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Old 09-08-2009, 02:09 PM
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Hopefully, something will be done; however, after this many years, it is going to be very difficult.
Thank you for saying that. I just closed an account on a martial arts board where I had spent many hundreds of hours as a volunteer Sr. Moderator because of the resistance and apathy I encountered in my simple plea to help identify this man. Disgusted and disappointed don't quite describe my feelings.

The tragic thing is that the victim, had he been lucid enough to understand the danger he was in before it was too late and not pulled his kicks and punches, would have, in the general consensus of martial artists I respect, walked all over this POS black belt sociopath. Of course then he would have faced the defeated black belt's enraged peers. It was a lose, lose situation for him and the image of him being dragged out of the dojo like just so much garbage, trailing blood and unconscious will stay with me for a long time. The unconcern of my fellow martial artist board members will stay with me longer...
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This was extremely disturbing. I hope you are able to assist with bringing these people to justice and ensuring the safety or whereabouts of the victim.
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Old 09-08-2009, 05:56 PM
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I'm just askin' so don't nobody have a cat.....any chance it's fake? Maybe check Snopes?

And who's "Blythe"?
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I'm just askin' so don't nobody have a cat.....any chance it's fake? Maybe check Snopes?

And who's "Blythe"?
It's a very valid question. All I can say is that the consensus of those with expertise in such matter say it is true (a police department spokesman, etc.).

Blythe is a POS. Information in the links provided, but basically he was a karate teacher and school owner in the 1970-1980's in Dumfries, VA.
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It's a very valid question. All I can say is that the consensus of those with expertise in such matter say it is true (a police department spokesman, etc.).

Blythe is a POS. Information in the links provided, but basically he was a karate teacher and school owner in the 1970-1980's in Dumfries, VA.
If Snopes has it - I can't find it ... anyone else having any luck ...???

In any case a brutal beating ... (almost) no one deserves that ...
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Old 09-09-2009, 06:28 AM
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New information about a possible second victim and the opening of a police investigation into both incidents:

http://www2.insidenova.com/isn/news/...0Inside%20Nova
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25-year-old video
Sorry, but this case seems all but dead. In reality, there appears little hope of making any
headway into "solving" this mystery.
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Old 09-09-2009, 01:44 PM
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Sorry, but this case seems all but dead. In reality, there appears little hope of making any
headway into "solving" this mystery.
Not necessarily. Above link shows Prince William County Police are looking into it and have a possible second victim being interviewed. VA has no Statutes on serious felonies and charges of some time look very, very possible. Also, you have literally HUNDREDS of folks, including myself working to try to identify the first victim to see whether or not he lived and lobbying to keep this alive. Even if he didn't there may be no way whatsoever to prove it was murder, but we're going to at least make Blythe and his Thug's lives legally difficult.

We are encountering a heck of a lot of apathy and resistance, true, but we have to try. If this young man did not survive than he deserves our advocacy. Folks uninterested in the case need not concern themselves with our efforts.
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