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Old 06-03-2008, 12:34 AM
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Technica Mechanical 3600K Movement. Does anyone know where this movement was manufactured?

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Old 06-03-2008, 05:29 AM
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Technica Mechanical 3600K Movement. Does anyone know where this movement was manufactured?

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Seems to be a Sea-Gull ST36 made in Tianjin, China. Basically it's a near-copy of the famous ETA-Unitas 6497/6498. The nice thing about this skeleton version from Sea-gull is that 3 finger bridge style is unique to this movement (unlike e.g. the Hangzhou 9000-series whose skeleton version mimics ETA's version).

I've read lots of positive comments from happy owners of watches using this movement.
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Old 06-03-2008, 06:17 AM
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Thank you, Chascomm. for taking the time to answer my question.

It seems that several Watch Companies are using Chinese Movements. Inexpensive Labor. I listened to Daniel Mink, Renato, say that some 70 hours of labor went into building the Stallion. The watch sells for $599.99. It would be interesting to know how much was the cost of labor. $.50 hour/$1.00 a hour???

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Old 06-03-2008, 06:53 PM
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Thank you, Chascomm. for taking the time to answer my question.

It seems that several Watch Companies are using Chinese Movements. Inexpensive Labor. I listened to Daniel Mink, Renato, say that some 70 hours of labor went into building the Stallion. The watch sells for $599.99. It would be interesting to know how much was the cost of labor. $.50 hour/$1.00 a hour???

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Old 06-10-2008, 12:48 AM
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Is this the same as the "Ebouche Technica Swiss" movements I hear Eyal talking about recently?
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Old 06-10-2008, 01:20 AM
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Is this the same as the "Ebouche Technica Swiss" movements I hear Eyal talking about recently?
Technica Swiss Ebauche is the movement maker now owned by Invicta which we have been told is in Japan per Jim Skelton of ShopNBC fame.

Why the movements seem to look exactly like other Chinese/Asian movements is open to speculation.
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Old 06-10-2008, 01:48 AM
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Well we can all say they sure ain't swiss
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Old 06-10-2008, 02:36 AM
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So how does he get away with referring to these Chinese movements as "Swiss?"
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Old 06-10-2008, 02:49 AM
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I am not sure how to do this. I have a message left on one of the forums. Putting it quotes may be OK??? I don't have the name of the person who posted it.

"As some of you may or may not know, China already is the main source of components for many of the "Swiss" watch companies.

"Many get all the components (case, crystal, caseback, pushers, crowns, dials, hands, straps, buckles, packaging) made in China then ship all the parts to Switzerland for assembly, and just throw a Swiss movement into it so they can fulfill the legal requirement to stamp it as "Swiss Made."
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So how does he get away with referring to these Chinese movements as "Swiss?"
He doesn't.

'Technica Swiss Ebauches' is a brand name, not a country of origin.

And TSE don't make ebauches (raw movement blanks) either. In fact there's no firm evidence that they make anything at all, however Eyal Lalo recently stated that Invicta is partnered with or owns a facility in South Korea that assembles the Technica movements.

Technica movements have been sourced from several Chinese enterprises. These days they seem to all be coming from Sea-Gull.

By contrast, all Invicta watches marked either 'Swiss Made' or 'Swiss Movement' are every bit as Swiss as they claim to be (according to the legal definition of the quoted terms).

There's more here on Technica, Swiss Made etc, etc:
http://www.tractionink.com/watch_wiki/i ... s_Ebauches
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Old 06-10-2008, 05:50 AM
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Thank you Chascomm,




That is a whole lot of information to absorb.



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Old 06-10-2008, 11:47 AM
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Be careful about believing the hype that SO MUCH swiss product is actually being made in China. Seems to be just another way to show what is being sold is as good as a true Swiss made watch.

I am sure there are Swiss brands that do subcontract things like links and even cases to China or other countries but better Swiss brands easily out due the required 51 percent to be called Swiss made. Hell my Hamilton I sold a few weeks back was Swiss made and the case was even Swiss made.

Oh well, back to the grind stone
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Another version of the "Swiss Legend". A watch with a Swiss movement and cased in Switzerland - with 51% Swiss content can be labeled "SWISS MADE" at the 6 o'clock position on the dial.

A watch with a Swiss movement - less than 51% Swiss content - and cased anywhere in the world is entitled to "SWISS MOVEMENT" or as IWG is apt to do "SWISS MOVT" at the 6 o'clock. Any mention of Swiss anything in the name - anywhere else on the dial or case is indeed "Swiss Legend" ...
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So how does he get away with referring to these Chinese movements as "Swiss?"
He doesn't.

'Technica Swiss Ebauches' is a brand name, not a country of origin.

And TSE don't make ebauches (raw movement blanks) either. In fact there's no firm evidence that they make anything at all, however Eyal Lalo recently stated that Invicta is partnered with or owns a facility in South Korea that assembles the Technica movements.

Technica movements have been sourced from several Chinese enterprises. These days they seem to all be coming from Sea-Gull.

By contrast, all Invicta watches marked either 'Swiss Made' or 'Swiss Movement' are every bit as Swiss as they claim to be (according to the legal definition of the quoted terms).

There's more here on Technica, Swiss Made etc, etc:
http://www.tractionink.com/watch_wiki/i ... s_Ebauches
Then why is the name "Swiss" even the title? I think we know why.
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So how does he get away with referring to these Chinese movements as "Swiss?"
He doesn't.

'Technica Swiss Ebauches' is a brand name, not a country of origin.

And TSE don't make ebauches (raw movement blanks) either. In fact there's no firm evidence that they make anything at all, however Eyal Lalo recently stated that Invicta is partnered with or owns a facility in South Korea that assembles the Technica movements.

Technica movements have been sourced from several Chinese enterprises. These days they seem to all be coming from Sea-Gull.

By contrast, all Invicta watches marked either 'Swiss Made' or 'Swiss Movement' are every bit as Swiss as they claim to be (according to the legal definition of the quoted terms).

There's more here on Technica, Swiss Made etc, etc:
http://www.tractionink.com/watch_wiki/i ... s_Ebauches
Then why is the name "Swiss" even the title? I think we know why.
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