Please Help With Crime Victim Identification

[Artemisia1]

As some of you may know, a video surfaced recently on YouTube that contained footage of the brutal beating of an African-American young man aged 22-29 in a karate dojo. A number of experts have declared online that they do not believe his injuries were survivable absent immediate medical care which he may not have received. Please follow this link and help us find this young man and discover whether or not he re-appeared after this December 13, 1984 video. If he did not, than it may be a homicide and conspiracy case for which no Statute of Limitation applies. Thanks.

WARNING! GRAPHIC VIOLENT CONTENT IN THIS LINK:

http://kmz.me/crimevictim/assault.php

http://kmz.me/crimevictim/index.php

This young man deserves justice. Please help.

[Artemisia1]

Edited YouTube video (without the graphic parts) that describes the event (with pictures) and is a very good summation of the case:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgLibi7FIfY

Edited to add that Virginia apparently doesn't have a Statute of Limitations on serious felonies, so, while a longshot, assault charges are not out of the question even at this late date.

[dubie76]

Amazing. With the amount of people that appeared to be present, I would think that someone would leak information. Next, what happened to the body? I know they drug it out the back, but I wonder what they could have done with it. How did this video get put on the net? I am sure that an upload record of an IP address would be on file with the server that hosted the video. With that the Police should be able to trace it to a provider and get a subscriber. JMHO

[Bonsai Doug]

Originally Posted by dubie76

I am sure that an upload record of an IP address would be on file with the server that hosted the video. With that the Police should be able to trace it to a provider and get a subscriber. JMHO

The victim aside, this too concerns me. You simply can not upload things without leaving
a trail behind you. Well, it can be done, but certainly not by the average 'Net user.
If local authorities do not have the wherewithal to do the trace, certainly Federal authorities do.

And what about the dojo? And the other people involved? No one recognizes them?

[mikiehorn]

m-m-m-m-m

tragic in ny case whether genuine or not ...

reminds me of 'snuff' films circulating some years ago ...

indeed - some routine police work should turn up something

missing persons report?

[Artemisia1]

Originally Posted by mikiehorn

m-m-m-m-m

tragic in ny case whether genuine or not ...

reminds me of 'snuff' films circulating some years ago ...

indeed - some routine police work should turn up something

missing persons report?

The video is real and was posted by Blythe himself - and quickly taken down after a firestorm erupted - and attempts are being made both by the general public (me and others with fliers, etc.) as well as law enforcement to identify the victim. That is crucial in terms of finding out whether or not this was a murder.

BTW, I erred in my original post. I should have stated "not known whether the victim survived" rather than not survivable absent immediate medical treatment.

Unfortunately, I'm encountering a "so what" and "its not a big deal" attitude from some folks on a major martial arts board I used to be a Sr. Moderator on. Disappointed doesn't describe my feelings over this. As soon as I've done my duty there as I see it (spreading the online Crime Victim Identification flier) I will close my account there.

[Artemisia1]

New information about a possible second victim and the opening of a police investigation into both incidents:

http://www2.insidenova.com/isn/news/...0Inside%20Nova

[Bonsai Doug]

25-year-old video

Sorry, but this case seems all but dead. In reality, there appears little hope of making any
headway into "solving" this mystery.

[Artemisia1]

Originally Posted by Bonsai Doug

Sorry, but this case seems all but dead. In reality, there appears little hope of making any
headway into "solving" this mystery.

Not necessarily. Above link shows Prince William County Police are looking into it and have a possible second victim being interviewed. VA has no Statutes on serious felonies and charges of some time look very, very possible. Also, you have literally HUNDREDS of folks, including myself working to try to identify the first victim to see whether or not he lived and lobbying to keep this alive. Even if he didn't there may be no way whatsoever to prove it was murder, but we're going to at least make Blythe and his Thug's lives legally difficult.

We are encountering a heck of a lot of apathy and resistance, true, but we have to try. If this young man did not survive than he deserves our advocacy. Folks uninterested in the case need not concern themselves with our efforts.

[Dominick]

The kmz.me links above do not work for me. But after doing a Google search it appears there are different versions to the story. Several websites report the victim was mentally ill and schizophrenic and there are also reports that he didn't die. I watched the video (including audio) on LiveLeak.com and while I certainly don't condone the actions by Willie Dennis and Bobby Joe Blythe, I can understand how this escalated.

Here's an interesting link with more details about the incident:
http://www.unfictional.com/bobby-j-b...-schizophrenic

[Artemisia1]

Originally Posted by Dominick

The kmz.me links above do not work for me. But after doing a Google search it appears there are different versions to the story. Several websites report the victim was mentally ill and schizophrenic and there are also reports that he didn't die. I watched the video (including audio) on LiveLeak.com and while I certainly don't condone the actions by Willie Dennis and Bobby Joe Blythe, I can understand how this escalated.

Here's an interesting link with more details about the incident:
http://www.unfictional.com/bobby-j-b...-schizophrenic

Now that article is COMPLETELY over the top. We do NOT know it is murder and the folks who wrote that article are doing our search for the victim a great disservice, IMO. The absolute best we can say is that a few medical folks stated that based upon the injuries that were received - using the metal stand as an anvil while the victim's head was stomped into it multiple times, etc. - and the quick view of the victim's breathing and quick blood loss is that absent medical care which we do not know if he received or not, we think he might have died.

Bottom line, we need a name for the victim. It is very possible that he lived. He may have been dumped in DC or Maryland (all close to Dumfries by auto) and received medical care. We don't know. What I posted is only a search for the victim's identification and to lobby the appropriate agencies to investigate (which they are now doing). The rest is Police business.

Thanks for the link - I wasn't aware of that particular article.